Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 15:08:11 -0500
From: pore@mainelink.net
Message-Id: <199603101958.OAA00815@mainelink.net>
Subject: Re: Accountability
To: orgonomy@jefferson.village.Virginia.EDU
Sender: owner-orgonomy@jefferson.village.Virginia.EDU

March 10, 1996

Jim and oml,

I know you might like a detailed answer but I am sure it may not be as 
detailed as you wish and may not answer all your questions. I had answered 
one of your private letters in fair detail but declined to answer the 
second one due to the tone of the message. It is the tone of your message 
that I dislike and do not agree with nor do I agree with all the comments 
made personally towards me or others on oml. Most of what you ask I have 
answered or if not directly; my previous posts to oml in their full context 
have stated my point of view well enough.
 
You say I don't know what I am talking about among many other things. You 
say we are idiots to believe Reich's work without verifying through 
experiment or reading published material. I do not agree. Some can sit in 
an accumulator and subjectively  verify to themselves its effectiveness. I 
am sure that many of Dr. Reich's patients who received the benefits of 
orgone treatments in the accumulator believe that orgone exists but they 
haven't done the experiments such as temperature difference in 
accumulators. Are all these patients idiots?

I have done several experiments to verify some of Reich's findings. I did 
many of these from 1975-1978. I tested accumulator reactions to those who 
sat in them on a subjective level. I know this is not considered documented 
proof of anything but it helped dash some of my suspicions of preconceived 
subjective reactions. I tried cloudbusting for 5 operations and had 
observed others doing it on several other occasions. I gave it up due to 
concerns for environmental effects and personal karma beliefs. I remember 
two failures, two gentle rains over new england, and one moderate 
thunderstorm that occurred within 12 to 24 hours of my operations. I can't 
prove it worked but feel it did. I do not have the protocols from back then 
although I had made some and they were lost during several trips across 
country. They were not incredibly detailed but I had done it only a few 
times.  I tested geiger counter readings on various items with an orgone 
saturated geiger tube with results that defied any normal readings that 
should have occurred.  I built regular accumulators and a pyramid shaped 
accumulator. I invested time into court records research and continue that 
today. I also made several variations on an orgone blanket. I tried 
reproducing the orgonoscope but with out success. I have never done any 
work on the bions but have never had a intense desire to work in biology 
although I don't discount its importance.

I have done little experimental research in orgonomy since the seventies 
but I do not think that makes me an idiot nor do I think it can be said 
that I don't know what I am talking about. I am not an expert in the field 
and I have always been suspicious of those who claim to be experts. Dr. 
Reich's writings substantiated my instincts toward suspicion of experts by 
the overwhelming way that many so called experts attacked some of his work. 
My grammar has always been a detriment in my writing skills but I have 
never pretended to be a professional writer. Since the mid seventies I 
underwent Reichian therapy and I am now doing my best to raise my very 
young children in the least armored producing environment that I am able to 
considering the armor that still remains with me from my upbringing.

I know this doesn't answer all you wanted but what I have said in the past 
I have said amply well if taken in full context. I make mistakes, I am not 
perfect, and I do not claim to be an expert. I am a citizen of the world 
with ideas, concerns, and knowledge that I enjoy sharing with others on the 
oml and through PORE concerning orgonomy. Others may not agree with me and 
I can accept that. That's part of life in the discourse of thoughts in 
communication with other people. 

Again thank you for expressing yourself and I wish you the best in your 
pursuits in orgonomy.

                sincerely jogg (Jamerling Ogg) that is with one "m")  


Here is a quote for the OML. Great idea David. Its refreshing and thought 
provoking to read them.

 
W.R
from Murder of Christ 1953..p.189 paperback ed

Physicians and Philosophers, to judge from past distortions, will probably 
establish a new vitue, the perfect ideal of "freedom of emotion" which will 
harass human interrelations. Rage will have no reason nor rational 
direction. It will rage for rage's sake only, to be, "emotionally free."


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