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date: 96-01-01
Does
God Exist?
From: zek@ix
.netc om.com(Ezequiel Gonzalez )
Date: 1996/01/01
MessageID: 4c9c71$b43@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com
organization: Netcom
x-netcom-date: Mon Jan 01 11:21:05 AM PST 1996
newsgroups: alt.astrology
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Ezequiel Gonzalez, P.O. BOX 4619, Ponce PR 00733
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For a list of all my writings see add at end of file
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Does God Exist?
The existence of God has been debated over the centuries.
This is a debate that may never end. But for those fortunate
enough to understand Orgonomy there is a way out.
The late Wilhelm Reich was a great psychoterapist who in the
early forties discovered the "life Energy" and baptized it
"Orgone". He discovered that this energy is the primary
energy from where everything else comes. He also notice that
the Cosmic Orgone Energy Continuum have many of the
characteristics that have been attributed to God. Thus, it
would seen easy to say that God is really the orgone energy
Continuum. This answer is a good approximation to the truth,
but may not be the whole truth.
In the theological arena there are two conceptions of God;
the Personal God, and the impersonal God. The Personal God
is a Self-Conscious Intelligence that exists independently
of the material world, or our subjective experience. The
impersonal God is a mere ultimate energy or spiritual force.
Thus, what Reich discovered was the God of Buddhism. The
Primordial Energy.
Matter is nothing more than life energy organized in fixed
geometric [mathematical] formations. Under further orgone
energy influence this matter will turn into life matter and
further down the road into intelligent life forms. The
dichotomy between evolution and creation is resolve in that
non living matter can and does evolve into living matter;
and living organisms does evolve from very simple to
extremely complex; but this only occurs under the presence
of a strong life energy (orgone) field. If we identify this
energy field as "God", then it becomes clear that evolution
only occurs under God's will. There is no need for evolution
to take millions and millions of years; if the orgone energy
field is intense enough then the transformation of non
living matter into highly complex life forms may take place
in a very short period of time.
[How fast? Just consider that there are over 10 millions
nanoseconds in a single second; time is a relative thing, if
the orgone energy field is 10 billions times stronger the
process may take a whole less time].
Orgone energy is the actual source of physical matter, and
is also the source of physical intelligence. At the very
least if orgone energy is God then we as intelligent beings
can view ourselves as the brain of God; as God's
self-conscious identity.
However, before we become too proud, we must consider the
possibility that a highly dense orgone energy field may
organize itself into a Self Conscious Intelligence in and by
itself, without the need of any physical matter. If that is
the case, then the Cosmic Orgone Energy Continuum when
concentrated in a relatively dense manner is in itself a
Self Conscious Intelligence; that is, a Personal God.
The Human Brain when under the presence of a highly dense
orgone energy field will function under the influence of
that field; becoming for all practical purposes a center of
consciousness for that field. If more than one person is
under the its influence then the various brains will operate
in synchronicity. When millions of brains are under the
influence of one and the same orgone energy field they will
act as cells within a larger brain. Thus, as the human race
comes in contact with the Cosmic orgone energy field, we as
a group become a conscious manifestation of the Godhead.
[This capacity to become, "The consciousness of God" is
limited, however, by the mental and biophysical armor within
ourselves.]
In summary the Orgone Energy is God. This energy has the
ability to organize itself into highly complex, self
Conscious Intelligent fields. When interacting with matter,
this energy will influence matter leading it toward
increasingly complex self conscious intelligent formations.
Of all that I have said, the crucial point that would need
further laboratory testing is the behavior of Orgone Energy
Fields. If this theory is correct a Highly Dense orgone
energy field will behave in a Self Conscious Intelligent
way. Obviously, we don't know how dense that field must be
before it starts behaving as a self conscious entity. But
long before that happens that field will influence those
around him. They will perceive it as superior entity. Their
reaction will depend on their previous understanding. Some
will worship it, some will fear it, some will become its
spokesmen [prophets].
This theory will explain the experiences of the Book of
Exodus where Moses came in contact with a highly dense
orgone energy field. All the purification requirements and
seemingly arbitrary "acts of God" describe in Exodus,
Numbers, Leviticus and Deuteronomy can be explain in terms
of Human beings coming in contact with an extremely strong
orgone energy field. Further down the road, when King David
was taking the Ark of the Covenant into Jerusalem one person
accidentally touched the Ark and God killed him on the spot.
Of course, if that ark was an "Orgone Energy Accumulator" as
its construction would suggest, then what happens was a
orgone energy discharge widely known to those involve in
orgonomy. As any practicing orgonomist will tell you, when
dealing with Strong Orgone Energy fields you must be
extremely careful, or suffer the consequences.
Orgonomy has already established the existence of a Primary
Energy that exhibits all the characteristics of the
impersonal God. But would that same energy behave as a Self
Conscious Cosmic Intelligence? Does orgone energy when
concentrated in relatively strong field exhibits
Intelligent, Self Conscious behavior? If the answer is yes,
then The God of Monotheism exists.
Another important point is life after death. If a self
Conscious Orgone energy field can exist independently of a
physical body, then; What Happens to the self conscious
human orgone energy field [the human entity] once the
physical body becomes unable to retain it? Does the energy
field simply dissolves back into the larger orgone energy
Continuum, or does it continues to exist as a distinct,
identifiable, entity?
Once again, theologians and philosophers may debate this for
ever and ever, but orgonomists should study it objectively.
They have the intellectual and laboratory tools needed to do
so. With the proper test equipment they should seek to
establish (1) If highly dense orgone energy fields exhibits
Intelligent behavior and (2) where the orgone energy within
the Human body goes at the time of death. Simple enough,
isn't it?
Of course they would have to be careful. On the first case
we don't know how strong the orgone energy field must be
before it exhibits Self Conscious Intelligence. When dealing
with strong orgone energy fields we must be extremely
careful. Furthermore, if strong orgone energy fields do
exhibit Self conscious Intelligence then, as we seek to
establish those fields we are contacting a Superior,
Primordial Cosmic Intelligence. Have to be careful with
that.
With regard to life after death, we don't know how much
orgone energy would need to stay together, as one
identifiable field, in order for the Self Conscious Identity
to be preserve. It could be that part of the energy
dissolves back into the environment while another part (we
don't know how large or how tiny) stays together as one
Identifiable entity. Thus the experiments would have to be
very precise in their measurements. Also the influence of
the atmospheric orgone energy and the energy fields of those
who are making the experiment would have to be taken into
account. Sometimes variations on those fields affect
traditional scientific procedures making the results
unreliable, how much more when the subject of study is the
tiny and changing orgone energy field of a deceased person!
As we take these various elements into consideration, the
objective determination of what happens to the orgone energy
field and the Self Conscious Identity of a deceased person
is not an easy task. But with care and determination it can
be done.
If the Existence of a Supreme Self Conscious Intelligence is
scientifically proven; and if we as human beings continue to
exists [as self conscious orgone energy fields] after the
dissolution of our physical bodies; then it follows that the
basic tenets of monotheism has been scientifically proven.
If there is a divine Intelligence then there must be a
divine will. It would be wise to find out what that will is.
Of course you may discard all this as the work of a
religious persons [did I hear somebody say fanatic? I don't
think so, a fanatic is not as open minded and rational as I
am] who wants to use orgonomy to argue the existence of God.
But remember, the Science of Orgonomy does have the tools,
and intellectual - scientific understanding, needed to
determine if the Orgone Energy Continuum has its own Self
Conscious Intelligent Identity. Thus instead of debating the
subject add infinitum, why not conduct the proper
experiments?
But Somebody may ask, what this has to do with Astrology?
Quite a bit. The behavior of the Orgone Energy Continuum
provides the link between the Cosmos and Ourselves. If the
Orgone Energy Continuum is "just" a primordial energy, its
behavior will be determine by "simple" physical laws we may
study and learn. In an indirect way, this is precisely what
Astrology has done; determine a set of natural laws that
could be applied to determine the Cosmic Influence upon the
individual. But if at a given moment or under given
circumstances the orgone energy Continuum starts behaving as
a Self Conscious Intelligence then its influence upon us
would be much more direct, personal and specific. Astrology
should help us live in harmony with the cosmos. Astrologer
have the sacred responsibility of interpreting the cosmic
message for others so that they may also live in harmony
with the cosmos. Thus, the actual nature and behavior of the
Cosmos, is fundamental to our science and practice.
The science of Orgonomy does has the scientific tools to
approach this subject in an objective, scientific fashion.
In this writing I have provided a set of assumptions that
can be use to set up a very specific set of experiments. It
can be done. It could have been done a long time ago. But it
has not been done. Thus, as an interested party, it would be
nice if we can push then [just a little] in the right
direction. For more information about Orgonomy [or to share
this ideas with them] you may write to:
American College of Orgonomy
P.O. Box 490
Princeton, NJ 08542
End
"
Telas Protetoras "
From: rot
hgiesser@ax.apc.org (Bruno Rothgiesser)
Date: 1996/01/07
MessageID: 4com13$kt1@ax.apc.org#1/1
organization: ibase.org.br
reply-to: rothgiesser@ax.apc.org
newsgroups: soc.culture.brazil
Trecho do livro " O Manual do Acumulador de Orgonio " de James deMeo sobre os problemas que podem ser causados pelas ondas emitidas pela tela do computador : " Assim como os aparelhos de TV , frequentemente eles (os monitores) empregam a mesma tecnologia TRC e produzem EBF , radiofrequencias , raios X suaves e campo magnetico pulsante , e relacionam-se problemas nos olhos , deformidades no feto e abortos espontaneos . (...) Se voce tem de usar um computador com monitor de TRC , há produtos no mercado que sao compostos de acrilico transparente com uma rede de niquel/nylon . ( ... ) Esses produtos , que nao devem ser confundidos com as " telas protetoras " mais comuns ,protegerao seu rosto e seus olhos do ataque direto da radiacao eletronica do TRC . " Essa parte de TRC , EBF , etc . eh meio complicada . Mas deu para ficar preocupado . Serah que alguem sabe onde posso encontrar tais telas ? Bruno Rothgiesser rothgiesser@ax.apc.org
From: aurel@uni-paderborn.de
(Aurel Balmosan)
Date: 1996/01/10
MessageID: 4d1jth$qci@news.uni-paderborn.de#1/1
organization: Universitaet Paderborn, Germany
newsgroups: sci.bio.misc
Some time ago (about 3 weeks) I have seen a report about a energy form
call ORGON. (or some thing like this)
This report was telling that almost any scientist don't want to speak
about it. (because speaking would be accepting)
I can remember following facts from the report:
- It was found by a student of Sigmund Freud about 20-30 years ago.
(I don't remember his name)
- Later he was forbidden by a law court of the USA. Also the law
court forbidd any further investigation in this. (Which is
very unusually from my point of view)
- In the last 5 years this energy was used to regenerate the health
some lakes all around the world. To do this they are using a
accumulator of some kind call ORGON accumulator which concentrates
this energy form.
I am searching for following informations:
- Original papers. Especialy papers that describes why and how
this enegry form was found.
- Peoples which are investigating in this.
If you know something please send me a mail because I don't read
this newsgroup generaly.
(I hope this newsgroup is the right one for this article)
Thanks in advance.
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Aurel Balmosan----- aurel@xylo.owl.de --------------Fnord!
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Re:
Searching for information about ORGON.
From: bae@
oci.utoronto.ca (Beverly Erlebacher)
Date: 1996/01/12
MessageID: DL30vL.Hsy@oci.utoronto.ca#1/1
sender: news@oci.utoronto.ca
references: <4d1jth$qci@news.uni-paderborn.de>
organization: Ontario Cancer Institute, University of Toronto
newsgroups: sci.bio.misc
In article <4d1jth$qci@news.uni-paderborn.de> aurel@uni- paderborn.de (Aurel Balmosan) writes: >Some time ago (about 3 weeks) I have seen a report about a energy form >call ORGON. (or some thing like this) >This report was telling that almost any scientist don't want to speak >about it. (because speaking would be accepting) It was a non-scientific theory founded by Wilhelm Reich in the 1920's. It was quite a popular fad then, and periodically afterward. I think the basis was the idea that sexual orgasms involved some metaphysical energy that could be accumulated and discharged by "orgone boxes", which were basically booths that believers sat in. >I can remember following facts from the report: >- It was found by a student of Sigmund Freud about 20-30 years ago. > (I don't remember his name) Wilhelm Reich, more like 70 years ago. >- Later he was forbidden by a law court of the USA. Also the law > court forbidd any further investigation in this. (Which is > very unusually from my point of view) I think there was a lawsuit involving practising medicine without a license, or perhaps it was a fraud case. >- In the last 5 years this energy was used to regenerate the health > some lakes all around the world. To do this they are using a > accumulator of some kind call ORGON accumulator which concentrates Umm, how did they measure the health of the lakes before and after, and did they control for the many many other influences on the health of lakes? I don't suppose this would have been published in refereed journals, would it? >I am searching for following informations: >- Original papers. Especialy papers that describes why and how > this enegry form was found. >- Peoples which are investigating in this. Try a New Age bookstore. If you want something more objective, I think Martin Gardner's book "Fads and Fallacies in the Name of Science" may have covered it. Or you could post to sci.skeptics. >If you know something please send me a mail because I don't read >this newsgroup generaly. Then why should you expect people to bother to answer you? Beverly Erlebacher Toronto, Ontario Canada
Re:
BIOENERGY AND THERAPY
From: babs@funh
ouse.com (Babs Woods)
Date: 1996/01/22
MessageID: babs-2201962132230001@millan.funhouse.com#1/1
references: <4duoc0$5fm$1@perth.DIALix.oz.au>
organization: Our Lady of Perpetual Mirth, Pacifica
newsgroups: alt.abuse.recovery
In article <4duoc0$5fm$1@perth.DIALix.oz.au>,
chacarl@perth.DIALix.oz.au
(Carlos Chavez) wrote:
> Some time ago I read In the group someone asking about Bioenergy.
Bioenergetics, a Body Oriented Psychotherapy.
> Bioenergy as Therapy was a teory presented by the German Psychologist
> and scientific W. Reich. He used the term Bioenergy in his study called
> 'Orgasmtherapy'. It was around 1925-1939. His teory was based in: Body
> electroenergy flow in humans. When a traumatic event happen This flow
> stacks in the area (usually muscles).
Musculature, posture, breath, all show the way a person has armoured
themselves against some emotion or trauma in order to defend themselves
and somehow survive.
> Also related to the motor nervious system which control the genitals
> and the system which deals with the brain and orgasm.
This is where you went wrong. Not orgasm in the sense of sexual release
nearly as much as in the sense of whole body release of emotion, also
known as a catharsis. It isn't simply all focussed in the genitals at
all, and this is where many of Reich's critics were also confused by his
terminology I think. It had remarkably little to do directly with
sexuality, as his student Alexander Lowen's writings also show. Reich
and Lowen understood that if you could get the rest of the body to
calm down, and could get the psych to calm down, then all libidinal
energies would flow more freely, including the sexual.
> Experiments were done that that energy exists. He called 'orgon'
> the unit of body energy.
At the time, people thought orgone therapy and such were utter hogwash,
and Reich was soundly ridiculed for it. Bioenergetics, though, being a
body-oriented method, has proven the link between mind and body exists
and that the way someone lives in their body reflects how they live as a
personality within that body and shows a lot about the things they have
experienced. To unravel the effects of emotional and psychological
experiences as held in the body can enable the person to release and heal
what they're carrying around inside of them and finally move on from it.
> His teory consisted in release the stacked energy. The teory was good
> ( I experienced that it was true). Hower his methods were strange. Many
> of his clients sue him. They said he abused some of them. He and some
> of his followers found themselves in court and were persecuted.
I don't recall his clients suing him, but the scientific community thought
he was a complete nutter and gave him a lot of trouble. Almost no one
took him seriously at the time, as I recall.
> The 2nd World war dissipate these things.
> Other people called this Vegetotherapy.
Actually, Reich called it that. As I recall, Lowen called it bioenergetics
(I may be wrong about that one).
> This they there is therapy which deals with bioergy called Biofeedback.
> It is mainly controlled by Electronic Intruments and handle with an
> expertise in read them.
> I hope this is some help.
> Carlos Chavez
I hope this is a little bit more coherent and useful.
-babs
"Excuse me, while I dance a little jig of despair."
- hadley@ics.uci.edu (Ted Hadley)
Re:
INWO: Draft _Assassins_ Concordance (LONG)
From: ralph@cs.cm
u.edu (Ralph Melton)
Date: 1996/01/31
MessageID: ralph.823118876@diaga.fac.cs.cmu.edu#1/1
references: <4ec5bd$q63@access2.digex.net>
organization: Carnegie-Mellon University, School of Computer Science
newsgroups: rec.games.trading-cards.misc
originator: ralph@DIAGA.FAC.CS.CMU.EDU
In <4ec5bd$q63@access2.digex.net> steve-b@access2.digex.net (Steve Brinich) writes: >Cat Juggling FWIW, there was a cat juggling scene in the the Steve Martin movie "The Jerk". >Orgone Grinder > Reference to the theories of Wilhelm Reich, who claimed to have > discovered a form of "life energy" called "orgone". Reich ran afoul of > the FDA on several occasions in the 1950s; he died in prison in 1957. Note also that the depicted contraption bears at least a loose resemblance to Reich's 'cloudbuster', which supposedly caused rain and dispersed clouds. Ralph Melton
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